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furious
23 ( +1 | -1 )
Most agressive way of meeting the French? I always open with e4, hoping for a e5 or c5 reply but I hate playing against the French because its too dull and closed for my taste. Anyone know of any crazy but sound to a certain degree, variations that I can try out? Or games?
Thanks
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keiserpaul
33 ( +1 | -1 )
You can try the Diemer-Duhm Gambit : 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c4
which can lead to BDG like play after 3. .. dxe4 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.f3 ;
or you can play 2.Bb5 and Black cannot play 2. .. d5 anymore ;
The Reti 2.b3 is also very nice;
and there are nice gambits in the French too as the Winawer-Alekhine gambit : 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Ne2 !? dxe4 5.a3 and after the "refutation" Be7 the white plan is Qd3 and 0-0-0, playable against both 6. .. Nf6 or Nc6.
atrifix
41 ( +1 | -1 )
Well 1. e4 e6 2. Bb5 Qg5 3. Bf1 Qd8 is =, if nothing else.
The 'soundest' gambit (not counting the Alekhine-Chatard Attack) to play against the French runs 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 4. Nf3 Qb6 5. Bd3!? cxd4 6. cxd4 Bd7 7. 0-0--the name of which has temporarily slipped my memory.
Other ideas for meeting the French are the Tarrasch with 3. Nd2 (which can lead to a lively game with 3... c5, but most French players prefer 3... Nf6), and the KIA. Recently 2. Qe2 has been in vogue, although it usually leads to KIA transpositions.
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brunetti
9 ( +1 | -1 )
Most aggressive way in my opinion, without dubious or strange gambits, is the Winawer variation Nc3 followed by Qg4.
Alex
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nelsonnewman
62 ( +1 | -1 )
The French Winawer is indeed one of the most aggressive answers to the French, but I would recommend that Qg4 be played on the 7th move, not the 4th...
Play might go 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5
5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Ne7 7.Qg4
From here, the two main alternatives for Black
is 7...0-0 (castling "into it".. heh heh.. with this reply Black is in for a long defensive seige) or
7....Qc7, which gives rise to a highly entertaining
and unbalanced game, with chances for both sides.
In my opinion, the problem with 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qg4 is that, since White has neglected
his center somewhat with the earlie Queen sortie,
Black can often counterattack in the center successfully...
Just some food for thought... :-)
Nelson
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triangulator
13 ( +1 | -1 )
how about this e4, e6. d4,d5. exd5 followed by c4 accepting the isolated pawn many good players play this including IM waitzkin and GM baburin
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furious
8 ( +1 | -1 )
WOW You guys are amazing! I didnt expect so many good answers....thanks!
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keiserpaul
11 ( +1 | -1 )
I agree with the Qg4 moves. It leads to much more amazing situations than the advanced variation with 3.e5
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brunetti
88 ( +1 | -1 )
Actually I intended the main line, with 7. and not 4.Qg4, as I usual play :) Some examples:
The "castling into it" variation:
board #108174, board #174326
The Qc7/Ne7 line:
board #206109, board #200573, board #234653, board #212586 (a loss from onlyapawn)
Other setups:
board #200245
Alex
tulkos
14 ( +1 | -1 )
A good sharp line for white is The winawer attack.
www.chessgames.com/perl/chessopening?eco=C15
nestorix
2 ( +1 | -1 )
another agressive way The wing gambit:
1. e4, e6 2. Nf3, d5 3. e5, c5 4. b4 ...
agkvirtual
jbmac
17 ( +1 | -1 )
atrifix Here is a game where i played that gambit:
board #385426
The result was a draw.
atrifix
22 ( +1 | -1 )
That gambit is called the Milner-Barry Gambit. With 14. Rab1, instead of 14. Rfb1, you could have obtained a significant advantage (Qxa2 completely failing to either Ra1 or Qxg7), e.g., 14... Qf6 15. Nd6+ Kf8 16. Rxb7 Qd8 (16... Qe7 17. Qg3 threatens Nf5 and Bb5) 17. Be5 Nf6 (17... f6 18. Bb5) 18. Qf4 and the threats of Bxf6 and Bb5 win.
jbmac
e4chess
15 ( +1 | -1 )
French Tarrasch Most French players are quite uncomfortable meeting this attack. It is used exclusively with great success by Karpov and now Adams.
alar
7 ( +1 | -1 )
Most agressive way of meeting the French? Throw the clock to his head while yelling: You, bloody bastard!
certainratio
furious
10 ( +1 | -1 )
hhmmm Not to self: dont discuss defenses Im uncomfortable with, cuz now everyone is playing the French against me, lol
javelin
15 ( +1 | -1 )
Furious Then you will have plenty of examples here to try and see which one you like best. I tried one or two myself :)
All those who posted suggestions, thank you!
urosub
10 ( +1 | -1 )
what i like: i like to play
1.e4 e6
2.d4 d5
3.exd5 exd5
4.c4
it’s something like panov, in caro-kann...