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Posted by jibb666
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1/22/2008
15:37:12

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Subject: Is there a better interface than Fritz?

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Hi all

I've played using Fritz 10, and it's very, very powerful, but I find that the interface is awful. Anyone know of any better chess programs out there that have a nicer interface (even if not technically as good)?

Any advice appreciated.

Jibb


Posted by spurtus
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1/23/2008
01:42:10

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I'll second that!... the UI is terrible.... just terrible...

Depends what you want from a chess program though... strength?... analysis?... coach?... english advice?... tutorials?... database?... holographic pieces like in Star Wars?

Chessmaster is good, and you'll find Chessmaster 9000 pretty much just as good as any of the newer additions, if not simpler and better in some ways...

Spurtus.


Posted by marinvukusic
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1/23/2008
05:06:48

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Erm... I have Fritz 8, and I like that interface. Did they change it?
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Posted by masros
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1/23/2008
09:00:43

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Arena is another good gui.You can find here www.playwitharena.com
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Posted by kansaspatzer
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1/23/2008
11:13:38

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Can somebody recommend an interface that would work on FICS that you could play variants on?
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Posted by wschmidt
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1/23/2008
14:29:24

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What is it...

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about Fritz's interface that you don't like?
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Posted by mathemagician_
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1/23/2008
16:08:57

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Since the original quesion has already really been answered and I don't really want to start a new thread I assume it is O.K to ask this here.
I was looking to purchase Fritz 11, however when I was searching on amazon there appears to be similarly named products; Fritz Chess 11 by First Class Simulations and Fritz 11 by Chessbase. Does anyone have either/both, what is the difference (besides £10) between the two?
The part puzzling me is that Chessbase's version review is very similar to Fritz Chess 10, but Fritz Chess 11 has no product review.
Regards in advance.
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Posted by mathemagician_
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1/26/2008
13:35:48

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Scrap that question. I'm an idiot.

Posted by ccmcacollister
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1/26/2008
14:51:41

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MATHEMAGICIAN . . .

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I'm sorry to hear that ... It must mean I am a bigger idiot since I don't see anything wrong with your Question?! But apparently you have figured it out, and I still haven't :(
Would you mind telling me the answer too? ... as I am really out of touch with Chess software and so have no idea at all what the difference might be. [Was the First Class Simulations product something that they bought license from Chessbase to revamp the program some way and resell it?! Or . . . ? ]

Thanks in advance if you would let me(us?) know. There may be others who are wondering too. Please advise . . .
Regards, Craig A.C.


Posted by mathemagician_
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1/26/2008
15:08:58

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Upon closer inspection of both boxes (and previous Fritz Chess editions) on the amazon website they all have the same ChessBase logo in the bottom right. So I've assumed that they are identical products (or extremely similar products with some additional minor details) although my assumption ignores why one is x% off and the other isn't.


Posted by jibb666
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1/30/2008
18:00:44

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Oh man - I typed a whole long reply and hit post - but I forgot that I only previewed the post. My mistake. This is probably why I need a simpler interface than Fritz :-)

In essence, Fritz is very, very good - but the whole interface I find completely disjointed. All the windows all over the shop. Trying to do some basic things like start a game from a set piece are over the top difficult in this.

I'm going to try chessmaster (thanks Spurtus).


Posted by spurtus
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1/31/2008
05:46:32

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chessmaster is now out on the xbox360, downloaded and played some live games last night... its a really cutdown version though. It has a correspondance chess engine built in though.

Posted by ogedei
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2/02/2008
11:28:35

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The last time I used a non-chessbase gui as my main analysis tool was about ten years ago. It was Chessmaster 5500. At that point (I'm sure it has improved a great deal) it was extremely bulky and rather annoying (talk about windows overlapping, jeez!), but I loved the database functionality. That lead me to try Fritz 6 (the latest at the time) and I found it very neat, tidy, and intuitive by comparison.

Granted, they haven't made any significant updates to the gui since then (Chessbase 8 and 9 were mere extensions of this Fritz 6 gui, as have been all the following versions of the Fritz family of guis). Can it be that in those ten years Chessmaster has improved to the point that it's better?

Still, I'll probably stay with the Chessbase stuff because I still find it very easy and intuitive for everything I want to.

(On a side note, I've tried Arena and like it's price, but found it rather homely and clunky).


Posted by wschmidt
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2/02/2008
20:05:50

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I think Chessmaster definitely

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has an easier learning curve and there are some very good tutorials included. I think Fritz has better analysis and database functions. I'd be happy with
Fritz's interface if they'd just include a decent explanation of the functions. It takes awhile to sort out and it's not intuitive in many cases.


Posted by spurtus
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2/03/2008
00:08:56

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'darkchess' is a superb variant you can play on xbox360 online.